I'm new to Mac after 25 years on a PC. I have two external monitors and the Mac displays in play. Using Logitech mouse. When i move cursor to bottom of screen, the dock doesn't always pop up. I have to repeat the movement multiple times and sometimes the doc won't pop at all. Jun 25, 2020 Apple's first beta of macOS Big Sur was made available to developer program members with the version designation of '10.16,' which is what one might expect from the successor to last year's Mac OS.

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• Apple said countless times.. the MacOS would never be touch-based. What we will have soon is a touch-based OS rebranded Mac. and this is not bad, from a financial and technological point of view it is not only understandable but actually very exciting. just what we will have is iOS's and iDevices take of an old paradigm we once called Macintosh. the Mac started with, and much because, of the mouse. as we shift paradigm to touch, the Mac as it has been since its inception is simply gone. What we have coming technically is better than anything Apple has done without a doubt, and perhaps it makes sense to sacrifice the Mac era for this new profitable and exciting iOS based platform. Steve Jobs said it himself, platforms peak and die. so what remains of the Mac from where i stand is essentially the name..
  (big issue might be the likely end of non App Store installs and the big saas push, but this another issue).
  By the end of this transition, we will have hyper powerful machines running something spectacular, that we will maybe call Macs, but that will likely be as different from the Mac as the Mac was from the Apple II series.
  
• Why would anyone think that these changes represent “the end of the Mac?” Apple isn’t losing interest in the Mac, we are. I can’t even describe how much less I use my MacBook than I did even 10 years ago. I can do everything on my phone or work iPad. I use my MacBook for a lot of typing, video processing, etc. That’s about it.

• Why would anyone think that these changes represent “the end of the Mac?” Apple isn’t losing interest in the Mac, we are. I can’t even describe how much less I use my MacBook than I did even 10 years ago. I can do everything on my phone or work iPad. I use my MacBook for a lot of typing, video processing, etc. That’s about it.

  I’ve been using my iPad Pro exclusively for over a year and to be blunt, it would take a lot to bring me back to using a desktop computer. I’d consider a new MacBook Pro, but I no longer have a need for an iMac or Mac Pro.
  If and when Apple introduces a new computing paradigm with glasses or whatever, I might be interested.

  edited June 2020

• Apple said countless times.. the MacOS would never be touch-based. What we will have soon is a touch-based OS rebranded Mac. and this is not bad, from a financial and technological point of view it is not only understandable but actually very exciting. just what we will have is iOS's and iDevices take of an old paradigm we once called Macintosh. the Mac started with, and much because, of the mouse. as we shift paradigm to touch, the Mac as it has been since its inception is simply gone. What we have coming technically is better than anything Apple has done without a doubt, and perhaps it makes sense to sacrifice the Mac era for this new profitable and exciting iOS based platform. Steve Jobs said it himself, platforms peak and die. so what remains of the Mac from where i stand is essentially the name..
  (big issue might be the likely end of non App Store installs and the big saas push, but this another issue).
  By the end of this transition, we will have hyper powerful machines running something spectacular, that we will maybe call Macs, but that will likely be as different from the Mac as the Mac was from the Apple II series.
  

  How did you manage to come to this conclusion?
• I’m fairly sure that when Steve introduced OS X he said something like “This should be good for 20 years”.
  ... and pretty much, here we are. And I know, underneath, the bedrock is much the same, but this feels like a replacement.
• 
  'I think those guys are being total tools, honestly,' said Federighi. 'I mean, I don't how they can even begin to come up with that theory. I get people coming up asking if we can still launch Terminal? Yes, you can. These Macs are Macs. We're not changing any of this.

• Why would anyone think that these changes represent “the end of the Mac?” Apple isn’t losing interest in the Mac, we are. I can’t even describe how much less I use my MacBook than I did even 10 years ago. I can do everything on my phone or work iPad. I use my MacBook for a lot of typing, video processing, etc. That’s about it.

  I’ve been using my iPad Pro exclusively for over a year and to be blunt, it would take a lot to bring me back to using a desktop computer. I’d consider a new MacBook Pro, but I no longer have a need for an iMac or Mac Pro.
  If and when Apple introduces a new computing paradigm with glasses or whatever, I might be interested.

  For every person that says this about their iPad Pro, there’s a person that says the opposite.
  the iPad pros are great machines and I know quite a few people that use them as their primary computer.
  i know even more (I’m included) that can’t ever migrate to that solution. There’s room (and a need) for both.

• Looks like skeuomorphism is on its way back?

  
  

  Or at least drop shadows.
• The multitasking, multiple window/desktop experience of Mac is still nowhere close to being replicated on an iPad. In my work environment, that convenience alone will keep me using a Mac for a long time.

  The bigger worry for Apple should be people who spend big $$ to buy a MacBook Air or Pro, or an iMac, to watch YouTube, Netflix, or do Facebook updates. Which is probably a larger population than they care to admit. So, as iPad becomes a better platform for those users, and they abandon the Mac, will there be sufficient customer base left to continue Mac development?

• Did Apple hire Google's emoji team to draw up this weird condom battery?
  

  Oh my god!
  I do hope they change that icon

• Why would anyone think that these changes represent “the end of the Mac?” Apple isn’t losing interest in the Mac, we are. I can’t even describe how much less I use my MacBook than I did even 10 years ago. I can do everything on my phone or work iPad. I use my MacBook for a lot of typing, video processing, etc. That’s about it.

  I’ve been using my iPad Pro exclusively for over a year and to be blunt, it would take a lot to bring me back to using a desktop computer. I’d consider a new MacBook Pro, but I no longer have a need for an iMac or Mac Pro.
  If and when Apple introduces a new computing paradigm with glasses or whatever, I might be interested.

  For every person that says this about their iPad Pro, there’s a person that says the opposite.
  the iPad pros are great machines and I know quite a few people that use them as their primary computer.
  i know even more (I’m included) that can’t ever migrate to that solution. There’s room (and a need) for both.

  I'm in the same camp. I could never carry out my work on an iPad, the single (ok, dual) window experience just isn't enough space for me, and the lack of development tools and serious CAD software is another point. There's plenty of open source C/C++ (and OpenGL) software I use on my Mac that will never be ported to iOS. Plus even a 12.9' iPad Pro doesn't cut it when compared with the two 27' displays I have now - I can get a 27' screen for less than the price of an iPad Pro. As well as all that there are numerous programs that just wouldn't work well with a touch interface, but there's no way Apple would allow keyboard/mouse only apps on the iPad.
  As Jobs said, not everyone needs a truck, but that doesn't mean no one needs a truck.
  I think the reason iPad sales haven't completely overtaken laptop sales is that people are worried there will be things they can't do on the iPad, even if in reality they only use a computer for browsing and the odd Word document, they have the security of knowing if they *need* to do something that an iPad can't do in the future, they will be able to. Bit like the comfort people ha(ve/d) with Bootcamp when switching from Windows.
• I find the reborn Mac Pro, the move to Apple Silicon, and the macOS changes (both naming and stylistic) to be a huge endorsement of the Mac from Apple.
  I think there really might have been a time back when the iPad was taking off like a rocket that some senior execs at Apple might have imagined the Mac would eventually be phased out. I think the past several years have made it clear that the iPad cannot replace the Mac for a nontrivial group of high-value users. Yes, it can meet the needs of many, but definitely not all.
  I think this WWDC shows the Mac is here to stay and is going to be getting more of the attention that it deserves, now that Intel is out of the picture and Apple has full control.

• So, as iPad becomes a better platform for those users, and they abandon the Mac, will there be sufficient customer base left to continue Mac development?

  Apple would need the Mac for their own development purposes, even if they didn't sell it to anyone else. Something with more storage, more processing, bigger screens, more interfaces, etc., than an ordinary user needs. They need it to build the future, and some of us need it to visit the future now.
  
• It’s not “the end of OS X” either (very dramatic headline, AI), it’s just the end of the OS X branding. The changes are, except Apple SoC support, mostly just visuals.
• I find the new look to be hideous. It doesn’t feel balanced at all.

• I find the new look to be hideous. It doesn’t feel balanced at all.

  
  
• Is 3D starting to come back - slightly, in icons and some graphics? Maybe, with cross pollination between platforms, this marks the end of the flat-world era started by Jony? I would welcome this with wholehearted joy!

• Looks like skeuomorphism is on its way back?

  Where?

• I find the new look to be hideous. It doesn’t feel balanced at all.

  What does “balanced” mean?
  I have no problem with the look. Looks high and tight.